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Post by burgersnfries on Sept 15, 2014 18:07:05 GMT
Here is what I have found so far. Please correct me, if something is wrong. BTW, I'm Windows. I probably need to add a Mac section & have so - There are two flavors of Onenote. AFAIK, the app itself is the same. The difference is that the pay version (IE Office 365) allows you to store your notebooks in the OneCloud (aka Skydrive). The free version will only save notebooks on your hard drive. I am using Office 365 & that pretty much replicates the EN experience at least regarding being able to access my notes from my PC, iPad, iPhone or a web browser.
- AFAIK, there is no good Onenote equivalent to Evernote's tags. (BOO!) The irony here is that one of the biggest complaints of people new to Evernote is they lament the lack of nested folders & eschewed the tag system. I'm now going through the inverse of this...taking my notes and storing them in one place, but being able to find them, even if I don't know what notebook they reside in. This is where keywords become critical. ON seems to have a good search engine (like Evernote!) So far, I can find things using it.
(More thoughts to come later...)
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Post by DutchPete on Sept 16, 2014 16:43:30 GMT
The pay version allows you to store locally & in the cloud, whereas the free version allows storage in the cloud only.
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Post by tavor on Sept 17, 2014 15:00:28 GMT
The pay version allows you to store locally & in the cloud, whereas the free version allows storage in the cloud only. Looks like pay version requires subscription to Office 365 - $7/mo or $70/yr. Summary of differences between free and pay versions per ON website: -Create notebooks on your PC. Create notebooks saved to your hard drive (offline) in addition to being saved to your OneDrive. Being able to work with notebooks offline as well as online is great for anyone with a spotty network connection or those who are always on the go.
-Support your business needs. Your notes are synced to your OneDrive for Business, so you and your teammates can collaborate easily. For added security, you can password-protect your notebooks. And with Office 365 you get the latest Office applications, which means you get a complete note-taking experience, with embedded Excel files and added Outlook tasks, meeting notes, and contacts.
-Record your notes. Why just write or type your notes when you can video- or audio-record them at the same time? That way you’re sure not to miss any important information. Perfect for students and for those important meetings.
--------------------------------------------- The phrase "Create notebooks saved to your hard drive (offline) in addition to being saved to your OneDrive" makes me wonder if ON has a local-only storage option.
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Post by burgersnfries on Sept 17, 2014 21:59:06 GMT
For some reason, I was thinking free ON only saved notebooks to the hard drive & an Office 365 subscription was required for cloud storage. Can't find where I thought I saw that, now.
To compound things, there are apparently even many different flavors of Office 365. I do a lot of business with Godaddy & through them, was offered "email & productivity powered by Office 365" for $4/month or "business essentials" for $8/month and Productivity Plus for $12.49/month. I was not able to find a clear cut comparison of those plans against "Office 365 Home" that I ended up signed up for at $99/year. Mine includes current versions of most MSOffice apps that can be installed on up to five computers, which I want and 1 terabtye Onedrive storage.
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Post by dutchpete on Sept 18, 2014 8:05:48 GMT
tavor: 1 small correction - you can password protect sections only, not notebooks, unfortunately.
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Post by tavor on Sept 18, 2014 8:26:02 GMT
tavor: 1 small correction - you can password protect sections only, not notebooks, unfortunately. Thanks for noting that. I had just copied and pasted from ON's website. Assuming I'm interpreting the site's comment properly, seems there is no local-only storage option whether one uses the free or pay version. Kind of a deal killer for me as I don't trust having confidential information in the cloud.
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Post by burgersnfries on Sept 18, 2014 13:41:30 GMT
tavor: 1 small correction - you can password protect sections only, not notebooks, unfortunately. Thanks for noting that. I had just copied and pasted from ON's website. Assuming I'm interpreting the site's comment properly, seems there is no local-only storage option whether one uses the free or pay version. Kind of a deal killer for me as I don't trust having confidential information in the cloud. The version I'm using allows me to have notebooks on my hard drive, not in OneCloud. I go to create a new notebook & select 'computer'.
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Post by tavor on Sept 18, 2014 15:46:07 GMT
Thanks for noting that. I had just copied and pasted from ON's website. Assuming I'm interpreting the site's comment properly, seems there is no local-only storage option whether one uses the free or pay version. Kind of a deal killer for me as I don't trust having confidential information in the cloud. The version I'm using allows me to have notebooks on my hard drive, not in OneCloud. I go to create a new notebook & select 'computer'. Thanks.
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Post by burgersnfries on Sept 19, 2014 7:32:09 GMT
I'm still struggling with notes (pages) with multiple tags. Since Onenote's search seems pretty good, I'm able to add keywords into some notes. Er, pages. But some, I still can't decide where the note should reside. I prefer to not duplicate the note in multiple notebooks b/c if I ever change the note, then I either must make the same change in all the other occurrences or else end up with multiple notes & trying to find out what one is the current one. (sigh) So I'm trying something new. I'm going to put the note page in a notebook & then copy the link to the other notebooks that are applicable. I do not know if note page links break like they can in Evernote & it's late, I've got to finish a couple of things & so I'm too tired/lazy to Google it. If anyone comes up with a better way, PLEASE post!
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Post by burgersnfries on Sept 26, 2014 15:11:08 GMT
In retrospect, this seems painfully obvious. But FYI... One of the lovely things about Evernote is that all your notes are in the same account (unless you specifically create new ones for whataver reason.) So everything was stuffed into my main account, regardless if it was gift ideas, addresses, business cards, insurance info, etc. This was neat b/c I'd say over half of my searches would span all notes, thanks to my use of detailed titles, keywords & tags. When I first started migrating to ON, I stayed with that thinking. One notebook & various tabs, section groups, etc to file the specific notes, er, pages. I finally realized yesterday (duh!) that (for me), I really need to have a separate notebook for each Evernote notebook. Mainly, because when using OneDrive, there's a file size limit. (http://en2one.proboards.com/thread/17/on-notebooks-onedrive-exceed-gigs)
Of course, the down side to this is that the ON search only searches on notebooks that are open. So if you don't have your insurance notebook open, you're not going to find anything in that notebook. A workaround is to use page links b/c if you click a link to a note in a closed notebook, ON will open that notebook.
FWIW, this is also a workaround that I'm using to kind of equate to Evernote's tags. If note 1 is tagged with tag A & tag B, I will put the note in one notebook A. But I will add a page in notebook B that links to the note in notebook A. (Hope that makes sense.) I don't want to have duplicate notes b/c if a change is made to it, I don't want to have to change all occurrences of that note. And if I were to forget to make the same change to all occurrences of that note, I don't want to subsequently be looking at the unchanged note & remembering I'd changed it but forgot what the change was. In this case, I might come to the incorrect conclusion that the changed note did not get properly stored and/or sync'd. (Again, hope that makes sense...)
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Post by dutchpete on Sept 27, 2014 17:09:15 GMT
I am not sure what you mean by having a notebook open. If 1N is open then all the notebooks are open. You can only lock sections closed, but not notebooks. When you do a search you can specify whether it should be a search on the page, in the section, in the notebook or in all notebooks.
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Post by burgersnfries on Oct 5, 2014 13:23:41 GMT
I am not sure what you mean by having a notebook open. If 1N is open then all the notebooks are open. You can only lock sections closed, but not notebooks. When you do a search you can specify whether it should be a search on the page, in the section, in the notebook or in all notebooks. Not true. You can open and close notebooks in OneNote. If a notebook is closed, it is not searchable.
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Post by burgersnfries on Oct 5, 2014 13:42:36 GMT
The reason I have closed some notebooks is b/c it appears that having a lot of notebooks with a lot of notes (tens of thousands) can impact computer performance. This is, however, one thing some Evernote users would like b/c you can have personal notes in a closed notebook, so that no personal notes accidentally show up, when using it in front of others, say like at work or when demonstrating something to someone else.
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